Parachutes can save lives: Maybe yours or someone you know

UPDATED 1/5/05

UPDATE 2005: How can we afford this? DoD throwing away multi-million dollar aircraft like toilet paper!

Thanks to Carlton Meyer, Editor G2mil.com for alerting me to this!

For the cost of two $40 million each F/A-18s crashing we could operate an Iowa class battleship. I say let's not WAIT for four F/A-18s to crash, and simply not buy them and fund instead two Iowa class battleships being reactivated that hurl their high explosives instead of trying to fly them and drop them.

Save the Pilots or the Plane? Why not BOTH?

We think its high time for a paradigm change.

When a pilot ejects during peacetime, a RECOVERY PARACHUTE DEPLOYS and recovers the entire damn plane for repair. In war time we can disable the RP over enemy territory to keep their grubby hands off our planes.

Over water, inflation bags should deploy to prevent aircraft from sinking.

Whatever happened to Murphy's Law in Aviation?

Or are we too arrogant and full of hubris to admit that planes DO CRASH?

We marvel that we even have ejection seats, frankly.

Every fighter plane having a RP gives pilots extra options to save themselves AND their aircraft instead of the current Hobson's choice.

If the aircraft is in an unrecoverable spin, the pilot could deploy the RP to get it out, cut-away the RP and fly back to base. When the RP is deployed the pilot(s) cannot eject until the RP is cut-away. If they eject first, the RP deploys x of seconds afterwards to recover the entire plane. The RP should be made of lightweight kevlar that will not give way if the aircraft is burning, with ring slots to let air escape and not rip even if deployed at very high speeds. If critics whine that the RP will cost the aircraft to lose payload via its weight, the RP only has to work ONCE and can be very thin and lightweight. If the pilot cannot eject and rides the aircraft in by the RP it may not be a gentle landing due to the ring slots letting air pass through, but he will survive. Military-Industrial Complex 101: Its the Economics, stupid!

Others will say that for every $40K RP system that saves every $40M F/A-18 that means one less $40,000,000 purchase from the aircraft maker by the government. So don't expect aerospace companies to embrace RPs. But they are being a penny-wise, pound foolish. IF WE DO NOT SERIOUSLY REDUCE AIRCRAFT OPERATING COSTS WE WILL SIMPLY GROUND THEM, ALL OF THEM. A good place to see where Chuck Spinney's "death spiral" at work is the U.S. Navy. In the next few years because of operating costs/attrition they are retiring ALL aircraft except the F/A-18 and the EC-2/C-2 family. This means ZERO money for Lockheed-Martin and its S-3 Viking (and no more ASW capability for carriers, really stupid in light of the growing enemy diesel-electric submarine threat), ZERO money for Northrup-Grumman for their F-14 Tomcats. Say bye, bye! To long-range anti-cruise missile defense via AIM-54 Phoenix missiles the Tomcats had.

So aerospace companies would be wise to do everything they can to keep their customers FLYING their aircraft, otherwise they will kill the "goose that lays their golden eggs" completely out of short-term greedy gain.

U.S. Navy/Mc 2004 Aircraft Accidents (so far)

www.safetycenter.navy.mil/statistics/aviation/summary.htm

FY04 Aviation Class A Mishap Summary

Through 11 Aug 2004

Mishap Date: 08/11/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 22:19 Evt Ser: 68038
Acft: CH053E Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: HMM-166 Fatalities: 2
Location: IRAQ
Summary: AIRCRAFT PITCHED UP, CAUGHT FIRE AND CRASHED. ACFT DESTROYED. 2 FATAL.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 08/10/2004 Severity: A AGM Time: 21:50 Evt Ser: 68033
Acft: MH053E Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: COMNAVAIRLANT
Custodian: HC-4 Fatalities: 0
Location: SIGONELLA
Summary: AFTER LDG, HELO TAXIING THROUGH RINSE LIFTED, MRB & HELO STRUCK GND.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 08/10/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 19:45 Evt Ser: 68029
Acft: S003B Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: COMNAVAIRPAC
Custodian: VS-35 Fatalities: 0
Location: JAPAN
Summary: ACFT CRASHED INTO TERRAIN ON WESTPAC ISLAND. INJURIES UNKNOWN.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 07/21/2004 Severity: A FM Time: Evt Ser: 67927
Acft: F018A Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: 4TH MAW
Custodian: VMFA-134 Fatalities: 0
Acft: F018B Count: N Destroyed: Y Major Command: 4TH MAW
Custodian: VMFA-134 Fatalities: 2
Location: BOARDMAN TARGET
Summary: MIDAIR COLLISION DUR UNIT LEVEL TRAINING. 2 ACFT DESTROYED. 2 FATALS.

Mishap Date: 07/12/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 10:53 Evt Ser: 67874
Acft: T045C Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: CNATRA
Custodian: VT-7 Fatalities: 0
Location: MERIDIAN NAS
Summary: STUDENT PLT ON SOLO DEPARTED RUNWAY ON LANDING AND EJECTED. NO INJURY.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 06/28/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 14:45 Evt Ser: 67803
Acft: F018C Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORLANT
Custodian: VMFA-122 Fatalities: 1
Location: BEAUFORT MCAS
Summary: AIRCRAFT DEPARTED RUNWAY ON LANDING AND OVERTURNED. PLT DID NOT EJT.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 06/27/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 00:30 Evt Ser: 67802
Acft: F018A Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORLANT
Custodian: VMFA-115 Fatalities: 1
Location: MID ATLANTIC OCEAN (BTWN LAT 45DEG N/S NOT CARIB OR MED)
Summary: AIRCRAFT LOST AT SEA DURING NIGHT CV OPERATIONS.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 06/01/2004 Severity: A AGM Time: 22:00 Evt Ser: 67644
Acft: C130T Count: Y Destroyed: N Major Command: NAVAL RESERVE
Custodian: VR-62 Fatalities: 0
Acft: C130T Count: N Destroyed: N Major Command: 4TH MAW
Custodian: VMGR 452 Fatalities: 0
Location: FORT WORTH NAS JRB
Summary: AIRCRAFT LOCATED AT NAVY FIELD DAMAGED BY SEVERE STORM WINDS.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 05/28/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 11:00 Evt Ser: 67627
Acft: F018C Count: Y Destroyed: N Major Command: COMNAVAIRLANT
Custodian: VFA-82 Fatalities: 0
Location: MID ATLANTIC OCEAN (BTWN LAT 45DEG N/S NOT CARIB OR MED)
Summary: DUR PMCF, FLIR POD SEPARATED FROM ACFT AND FELL INTO THE SEA.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 04/26/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 03:30 Evt Ser: 67208
Acft: CH046E Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORLANT
Custodian: HMM-266 Fatalities: 0
Location: AFGHANISTAN
Summary: BROWNOUT TO HARD LDG, ROTOR BLADES STRUCK TERRAIN AND SITUATED UPRIGHT
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 04/21/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 20:15 Evt Ser: 67191
Acft: F018A Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: 4TH MAW
Custodian: VMFA-112 Fatalities: 1
Location: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA LOGISTICS
Summary: ACFT CEASED AUDIO TRANSMISSIONS DURING FLT & FAILED TO RETURN TO BASE.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/30/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 00:20 Evt Ser: 67040
Acft: AH001W Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: COMMARFORPAC Fatalities: 0
Acft: AH001W Count: N Destroyed: Y Major Command: 4TH MAW
Custodian: HMLA-775 Fatalities: 0
Location:
Summary: TWO ACFT COLLIDED WHILE AIR TAXIING OFF ACTIVE RWY TO THE FARP.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/29/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 16:00 Evt Ser: 67032
Acft: F018A Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: NAVAL RESERVE
Custodian: VFA-203 Fatalities: 0
Location: TENNESSEE
Summary: PILOT EJECTED DURING LOW LEVEL FLT. ACFT STRUCK GROUND. ACFT DESTROYED
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/29/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 10:45 Evt Ser: 67038
Acft: F014D Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: COMNAVAIRLANT
Custodian: VF-31 Fatalities: 0
Location: JOHN C STENNIS CVN 74 SOCAL - SOUTH CALIF OPS AREA
Summary: ACFT DIVERTED TO NAS WITH FUEL TRANSFER PROBLEMS. CREW EJECTED SAFELY.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/26/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 15:27 Evt Ser: 67023
Acft: F018C Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: COMNAVAIRLANT
Custodian: VFA-15 Fatalities: 0
Location: RALEIGH DURHAM INTL
Summary: AIRCRAFT CRASHED ON TAKEOFF ROLL. PILOT EJECTED SAFELY. PLT MINOR INJ.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/24/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 12:19 Evt Ser: 66989
Acft: F018C Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: COMNAVAIRLANT
Custodian: VFA-82 Fatalities: 0
Location: MID ATLANTIC OCEAN (BTWN LAT 45DEG N/S NOT CARIB OR MED)
Summary: AIRCRAFT STRUCK WATER. PILOT EJECTED/RESCUED. UNKNOWN INJURY.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/10/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 21:00 Evt Ser: 66803
Acft: UC035 Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: COMMARFORPAC Fatalities: 4
Location: MIRAMAR
Summary: ACFT STRUCK GROUND DURING GROUND CONTROLLED APPROACH. 4 FATAL INJS.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/10/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 17:50 Evt Ser: 66802
Acft: F018C Count: Y Destroyed: N Major Command: COMNAVAIRPAC
Custodian: VFA-94 Fatalities: 0
Location: LEMOORE
Summary: ACFT DEPARTED RUNWAY ON LDG ROLLOUT AND OVERTURNED. MINOR INJURIES.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 03/04/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 08:53 Evt Ser: 66784
Acft: SH060B Count: Y Destroyed: N Major Command: COMNAVAIRLANT
Custodian: HSL-40 Fatalities: 0
Location: MAYPORT NS
Summary: ACFT EXPERIENCED HARD LDG, STRUCK GROUND AND ROLLED OVER ON ITS SIDE.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 02/24/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 18:15 Evt Ser: 66722
Acft: T045C Count: Y Destroyed: N Major Command: CNATRA
Custodian: TRARON NINE MERIDIAN Fatalities: 0
Location: MERIDIAN NAS
Summary: STUDENT ON FCLP SOLO CRASHED ACFT ON RWY DUR ROLL OUT ON TOUCH AND GO.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 02/18/2004 Severity: A AGM Time: 21:15 Evt Ser: 66660
Acft: CH053D Count: Y Destroyed: N Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: HMH-463 Fatalities: 0
Location: KANEOHE
Summary: INADVERTENT ACTUATION OF RAMP DURING DE-RIGGING. PASSENGER INJURED.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 01/23/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 12:50 Evt Ser: 66512
Acft: AH001W Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: HMLA-367 Fatalities: 0
Location: YUMA
Summary: HELO CRASHED WHILE CONDUCTING DAY URBAN CAS TRNG MSN. ACRW INJURED.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 01/22/2004 Severity: A FM Time: 19:02 Evt Ser: 66510
Acft: UH001N Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: HMM-166 Fatalities: 4
Location: CAMP PENDLETON
Summary: AIRCRAFT STRUCK GROUND DURING NIGHT OPS TRAINING MISSION.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 12/17/2003 Severity: A FM Time: 15:48 Evt Ser: 66305
Acft: F018C Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: COMNAVAIRPAC
Custodian: VX-9 Fatalities: 0
Location: CHINA LAKE NAWS
Summary: AIRCRAFT DEPARTED RUNWAY ON LANDING.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 12/08/2003 Severity: A FM Time: 12:45 Evt Ser: 66186
Acft: AV008B Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: VMA-211 Fatalities: 0
Location: YUMA MCAS YUMA INTL
Summary: ACFT CRASHED FOLLOWING ENG FAILURE INFLIGHT. PILOT EJECTED SAFELY.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 12/03/2003 Severity: A FM Time: 20:10 Evt Ser: 66146
Acft: AV008B Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: VMA-211 Fatalities: 0
Location: YUMA
Summary: PILOT EJECTED ON FINAL DUE TO CONTROLLABILITY PROBLEMS. MINOR INJURY.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 11/21/2003 Severity: A AGM Time: 04:15 Evt Ser: 66081
Acft: S003B Count: Y Destroyed: N Major Command: COMNAVAIRLANT
Custodian: VS-31 Fatalities: 1
Location: GEORGE WASHINGTON CVN 73
Summary: DURING ACFT TOWING DOLLY REPOSITIONING,PERS CRUSHED BTWN STORE & DOLLY
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 10/22/2003 Severity: A FM Time: 20:15 Evt Ser: 65780
Acft: UH001N Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORPAC
Custodian: HMLA-367 Fatalities: 0
Location: TWENTYNINE PALMS EAF
Summary: AIRCRAFT IMPACTED GROUND ON WAVEOFF DURING A SIMULATED TROOP INSERT.
Env: Aviation Operational

Mishap Date: 10/15/2003 Severity: A FM Time: 08:40 Evt Ser: 65738
Acft: F018A Count: Y Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORLANT
Custodian: VMFA-115 Fatalities: 0
Acft: F018A Count: N Destroyed: Y Major Command: MARFORLANT
Custodian: VMFA-115 Fatalities: 0
Location: MID ATLANTIC OCEAN (BTWN LAT 45DEG N/S NOT CARIB OR MED)
Summary: DUR BFM, 2 LIKE AIRCRAFT STRUCK WATER. BOTH AIRCRAFT DESTROYED.
Env: Aviation Operational

UPDATE 2001: American Non-chalance strikes: 9/11 terrorists ram airliners into buildings, killing thousands of Americans

We've had a Concorde airliner crash/burn, killing over 100...3 airliners rammed into buildings killing over 3,000; yet we still are in our non-chalant trance building airliners in the same death trap fashion because we refuse to admit that they will indeed CRASH. Its our technoarrogance and corporate greed that prevents us from having the HUMILITY to respect God's creation and its forces and to have a "Plan B" when "Plan A" fails. This web page begins with a quick presentation of how our airliners are made into death traps that are not survivable. Then it will ask you if there should also be a "Plan B" of an escape system and survivable crash-worthy designs.

These are death traps! Not crash-worthy! Safety is NOT a corporate priority!

We should boycott airlines until they make safe aircraft with fewer than 200 passengers--that are crash-worthy, have an in-flight escape system, that do not stand three stories off he ground--that can land if necessary in a farmer's field. Make parachute recovery of the entire passenger cabin a reality instead of crash landing in the event of Pilot, Engine or Airframe failure. "PEA" has failed and will continue to fail--the answer is another option, other than forward momentum to sustain lifts over the wings--95 years after the Wright brothers, it is time to improve. No more 600+ passenger jumbo jets for "super terrorism" to grab headlines. Heavier-than-air flight has proceeded with PEA for over 95 years now....its time for something more than PEA, the answer is something older than PEA itself: the parachute.

We should add IMMEDIATELY airbag/belts with smoke hood to every airliner seat

The combination airbag to prevent bodily injury from impact belt offered by Godyear Aerospace is a great idea. We need to also have an integral smoke hood so passengers can breath long enough to escape through toxic smoke, too. The would don the belt and hood just prior to crash landing. The air bag would be deployed prior to the crash or upon impact.

The next-generation of airliners should be made with SAFETY as top priority--not corporate profits...Crash-worthy Burnelli type aircraft have been available for decades----but corporate GREED and politics have continued to send thousands of people to their deaths!

Full solution is Burnell-type airplanes with fuselage as lifting body so structure is stronger and contributes lift for lower wing loading and slower take-off and landing speeds....

However until we can get Burnelli airliners flying sit as far to the rear of the plane as possible! The following is proof that in a conventional tubular fuselage and wing aircraft the safest place is as close to the TAIL as possible!

Russian Plane Crash Kills 14

World - AP Europe

Russian Plane Crash Kills 14
Sun Jul 28, 2:57 PM ET
By BURT HERMAN, Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW (AP) - A Russian Il-86 passenger jet dove and crashed into a forest just after taking off Sunday afternoon from Moscow, killing 14 people and spreading charred debris beyond the runway. Two flight attendants sitting in the back of the plane were the only survivors.

The crash happened so fast that the pilots of the Pulkovo airlines jet didn't have time to give flight controllers any indication there was a problem after lifting off from Sheremetyevo-1 airport, aviation officials said.

The plane hit the ground with such force that its front section was unrecognizable amid the blackened wreckage except for a wall of fuselage with the outlines of windows. Work to find and identify bodies was going slowly because of the scale of the destruction.

It was the second crash of a Soviet-era plane in as many days. On Saturday, a Su-27 fighter jet performing at an air show in western Ukraine clipped the ground and sliced through a crowd of spectators killing at least 83 in one the world's deadliest air show accidents.

Maxim Khmelov, 13, was at a nearby beach with a friend trying to cool off on the clear, sunny day when he saw the Il-86 nose down and then bank before hitting the ground. He said a plume of smoke went up "like a mushroom cloud."

Smoke continued to rise from the wreckage, lying in a ditch among birch trees and bushes, long after the flames were out. Other jets soared into the sky directly overhead as firefighters worked hoses to fully extinguish the smoldering remains.

About 100 army conscripts dressed in camouflage arrived to help comb the crash site for bits of debris in the investigation, and a group of officials from the Russian Security Service wearing black vests emblazoned with the agency's Russian initials FSB were also at the scene.

Sheremetyevo-1 airport which serves mainly flights within the former Soviet Union, and is located adjacent to Moscow's main international airport Sheremetyevo-2 was closed for about an hour after the crash but was running normally by late Sunday afternoon.

Of the two flight attendants who survived and were being treated in Moscow hospitals, one was in shock and the other seriously injured, said Sheremetyevo airport General Director Sergei Belayev.

One of flight attendants, Arina Vinogradova, survived the crash with only an injured hand and bruises, and was able to sit up in her hospital bed in footage shown on RTR television. Dr. Dmitry Fedorovsky said it was an "exceptional case" and joked that she should write her memoirs.

The plane had carried passengers to Moscow from the Black Sea resort of Sochi and was heading back empty to its home airport in St. Petersburg, Belayev said. The flight between the capital and the former imperial capital usually takes about an hour, and airport official Vadim Sanzharov told Russian television that the Il-86's fuel tanks weren't full.

Anatoly Ivanov, a pilot and head of flight services for Pulkovo airlines which operates regular passenger and cargo service between Moscow and St. Petersburg said he was friends with the crashed jet's pilot and described him as a first-rate airman with more than 20 years experience flying.

Ivanov said it was "too early to say" what caused the crash, but added the plane had been maintained to Russian and international standards.

The Il-86, a workhorse of Russian airlines, is a four-engine wide-bodied plane with a capacity of up to 350 passengers. It is often used by top Russian officials for travel, including President Vladimir Putin ( news - web sites).

"This is a very tragic event. This was a reliable plane," Ivanov said. Russian media reports said in the nearly 30 years that the Il-86 has been in service there have been only six crashes with no fatalities.

Ivanov said a determination of the cause for the crash would rely on the examination of the plane's flight recorders, all of which were recovered by late Sunday afternoon.

The plane crashed near the Dmitrov highway northwest of the capital, filled with the regular Sunday afternoon traffic as Muscovites headed home from a hot summer weekend spent at their dachas.

People were riding bicycles along the dirt paths in the woods near the crash site, and some onlookers were dressed for the beach in bathing suit tops and shorts. There are numerous ponds and lakes in the area the closest major recreation area to Moscow with a large water reservoir that is popular with boaters and swimmers.

Read about how we MUST have crash-worthy airliners!

The Burnelli Answer

BAD NEWS: AIRLINERS KILL 3,000 PEOPLE: September 11, 2001

You are 30,000 feet in the air, when the pilot makes an announcement: we have taken over this airplane and we are returning back to the airport. He is of course lying as he dives it into a skyscraper packed full of 25,000 people.

Or, the flight crew has lost power in the engines, and tells everyone to prepare to crash land! What can you or anyone do at 30,000 feet in the sky? As it is right now--chances are you will die. My colleagues and I have studied the cases mentioned below and have come up with solutions. A solution that can become effective immediately. You now can survive.

Its called, THE PARACHUTE.

One of the creators of the parachute, genius Leonardo da Vinci originally saw the parachute as a means to ESCAPE FROM BURNING BUILDINGS.

"The first known pictorial evidence of the drag principal appeared in the sketchbook of Leonardo da Vinci in 1514. The device pictured was a pyramid shaped structure by means of which, the sketch implied, a man might leap from a tower or burning building without greatly endangering his life."

Ironic, that over 500 years later, we still do not have Building Escape Parachutes (BEPs) and we saw hundreds jump to their deaths when fires blocked their stairwell escape after terrorists rammed fuel-laden passenger jetliners into the World Trade Center (WTC) towers in New York City on September 11, 2001. Had BEPs been in the WTC towers HUNDREDS of people would have lived, perhaps even THOUSANDS. The ironies in this are many. Even though parachutes have been proven as life-saving devices to escape burning and disabled aircraft, you will see a disgusting non-chalance by pilots, airline executives---even MILITARY pilots who will be flying into areas where the enemy will shoot at their airplanes and they will be disabled and crash---that REJECTS THE NEED FOR PARACHUTES. Its like their fly-boy egos are too bruised to admit that their exalted flying skill is not the solution to every in-flight emergency. They are BULLSHIT. They are lousy excuses for human beings and frankly, I have no sympathy for the airline industries falling profits as the American people tired of their bullshit lies and excuses and rationalizations about how "safe airline travel is compared to...yaddda yadda" and have chosen to refuse to travel in their fucking death traps. AMEN, AMERICA. The airlines even refuse to do things that require no bold vision, like lining cargo bays with kevlar to absorb a bomb blast nor outfit each seat with a smokehood so passengers can escape and not collapse from fumes when the plane fills up with smoke. While heroic passengers on Flight 93 fought the asshole terrorists and brought the plane down in a field far short of their intened target of either the White House or Capital building, had the plane been fitted with escape parachutes, the other passengers could have bailed out as Todd Beamer, Thomas Burnett, and Jeremy Glick kicked the knife-wielding terrorist's ass with their bare hands.

OLD BAD NEWS, July 17, 1999

Type of aircraft flown by JFK Jr.

John F. Kennedy Jr, his wife and her sister fly in a Piper single engined plane to the Island, Martha's Vineyard for a family wedding. A VFR-only, inexperienced pilot, JFK Jr. is flying at night in foggy weather. Radar reports he descends from 2200 feet to 1300 feet in just 12 seconds, then off the radar screen. Debris has been found in the water. Search parties begin at once. They are feared lost.

Months ago we were doing a web page on recovery parachutes, you are at it now. We've seen footage of recovery parachutes on The Discovery Channel, and several models are approved for light plane use.

The following links show one FAA-approved recovery parachute and plane (SR20), made by Cirrus. Pictures showing a total aircraft recovery are included.

http://user.aol.com/BRSchute/BRS1.HTML

http://user.aol.com/BRSchute/BRS24.HTML

If JFK Jr. had run into trouble at 1300 feet, he could have pulled a handle, deployed a recovery parachute and ditched into the water. There he and his occupants could have found floatation devices and waited for rescue. He was probably dis-oriented by being non-instrument rated and flying into a haze unable to see the horizon. This "death spiral" is best described in the web page below;

178 Seconds to live

Recovery parachutes should be mandantory for ALL light planes. They can be deployed immediately upon entering a "death spiral" to save lives.

No excuse these are not on every light plane

How many more will have to die before we insist on common sense safety devices?

In the 1920s there was a plane brought to earth by an accidental parachute mishap. In fact, here is the account of Aviation legend, Roscoe Turner describing why we need parachute recovery of airplanes and his test proving the concept:

1929 Parachute Recovery Test

My study of aviation history is that it was easier to bail out with a parachute than to try to recover the entire plane (no modification to the plane), so people like Lindbergh during the 20/30s took the least costly approach. Its only of recent years where we have been in denial and non-chalance when we stopped wearing parachutes when flying. The problem of crashing has not gone away.

Pilots use parachutes for spin recovery, why not TOTAL RECOVERY?

Stephen Chalupa proposes passenger escape pods like the F-111 fighter-bomber used but on a larger scale:

http://safetycraft.virtualave.net/in-action.html

If it saves just one life, it will be worth it.

Now let's strip away the conventions. Most pilots are totally focused on Pilot, Engine and Airframe (PEA) as the solution to every aircraft problem. Almost every pilot I have talked to is PEA narrow in focus. The fixed-wing airplane requires forward motion to keep itself flying in the air. Many accidents occur during the take-off run and landing which require runways--perhaps the ENTIRE DESIGN of PEA is faulty--perhaps an Autogyro that can land/take-off anywhere, a much more forgiving aircraft than a fixed-wing or a helicopter is the ultimate answer. Put fixed wings on it so it can fly like a regular plane at high speeds (Gyro-Coptor), if something goes wrong, it has rotor blades to lower it to safety in a small opening, not slam into the ground or skid across the ground at 100-300 mph. So let's face it, PEA is going to fail.

The "P" in PEA fails 46% of the time in all aircraft crashes.

The "E" and the "A" fail 22% of the time in all aircraft crashes.

Details: Aircraft Crash Data Base

The other 20% is Weather and a surprising 10% is SABOTAGE.

Think about it.

At some point PEA is going to fail in themselves, or in the face of weather, mid-air collisions and sabotage. Yes, we should make airliners more crash-worthy and line their cargo holds with kevlar to survive bomb blasts (Airframes). We need another OPTION (other than crashing); one of those options is the parachute--a bail-out parachute for the passengers themselves or a larger parachute to bring the entire plane down. I don't know why or how something that would save your life is opposed, but its better to be ALIVE then dead. Don't let ego, non-chalance and narrowness make your choices for you. PEA + RP = more lives saved. Our biggest obstacle is the ego of pilots towards saving their own lives and the lives of their passengers. Next is the anti-intellectualism and blue-collar fatalism of the American people themselves who are ignorant of the laws of physics, aviation matters derived from living a sheltered life devoid of any life-threatening situations (would rather sit in their seat and crash/burn than get off their ass and jump/parachute and live) which would teach them that when you have a chance to exert control over a situation with a high possibility of survival take it, since it might not be better a few seconds later.

I'm sorry, the truth hurts. But better a bruised ego (Pilot's), bruised BS world-view (blue-collar fatalism) resulting in a saved life or lives than more tragedies.

We love how losers who want to sit on their ass and do nothing---- make excuses using "statistics" to make us believe the status quo is "ok". We love how they react to the "statistic" below showing how airline pilots have the most dangerous job in America second only to fishermen and loggers. Any takers?

WHAT CAN WE DO NOW?

1. Recovery parachutes on all light planes
2. Smoke hoods on all airliner seats
3. Line cargo holds of airliners with kevlar to deflect bombs
4. Start designing a crash-worthy Burnelli civil-military airliner Extreme Short Take-Off and Landing (ESTOL) aircraft
5. R&D for passenger escape pods Re: Stephen Chalupa's F-111 style concept

WHAT CAN WE DO IN 1-5 YEARS

6. Passenger exits modified for parachute bail-out
7. Develop passenger seatpack bail-out parachute/life preserver
8. Air bags

WHAT WE CAN DO IN 5-10 YEARS

9. Field Burnelli crash-resistant ETSOL airliners
10. Transfer old tube/wing airliners to U.S. military for cargo use
11. Perfect pod escape system for Burnelli airliners

HISTORY OF AVIATION NON-CHALANT SHAME

Remember Jessica Dubroff? 7 years old. DEAD. Her father, DEAD. Her flight instructor, DEAD. John Denver, DEAD.

All Could have been saved by a recovery parachute starting in 1996. How many more JFK Jrs, Jessicas, Bessetts, John Denvers will have to die in the 1200+ general aviation accidents in the U.S. before we install recovery parachutes on ALL light planes? Think of all the famous people who died in plane crashes... Maybe YOU will be next.

1. January 28, 1986

Seven crewmembers board the Challenger for what should have been a 6-day mission. As all of America watched, the Challenger takes off. Seventy-three seconds into the flight, an explosion. Telemetry (signals from the astronaut's body vital signs) report that all seven crewmembers were still alive as they plummeted 65,000 feet into the Atlantic Ocean. If you don't realize this, click on this link and hear them curse, pray and cry for over 2 minutes before they hit the water. Or scroll down to the bottom of this page. (It was so disgusting I had to include it). Whether this is THE transcript of their last words, the truth that they could have been saved, recovered and merely a shuttle written off would have been an immense victory had NASA had the humility to admit "murphy" can strike and have a Course Of Action (COA) available to meet the problem. But NASA like the rest of the aviation community is in a state of arrogo-denial.

Killed by NASA non-chalance: the Challenger 7 alive until they hit the water

In the media, all seven members were reported dead immediately after the explosion. If the crewmembers were in fact alive, they were trapped with no ejection seat and parachute. Military planes have collided in front of the eyes of the world spectator's at the Paris Air show and exploded--and their pilots have ejected and parachuted to safety, but even after the Challenger explosion, NASA refuses to put them in America's Space shuttles. (Can you spell the word assholes?)

The Gemini program space capsules had two ejection seats for both astronauts. The russians had a crew of cosmonauts who were saved from a fiery death on the launch pad by a similar system. NASA has Recovery Parachutes to bring the space shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters (SRBs) back to earth.....but I guess these are more important than people...is it a wonder that NASA is so "gaga" over unmanned missions? (Abilty to spend BILLIONS without risk of killing someone and pissing the American people off). Yet the new Space Station doesn't spin to create artificial gravity, and has no micometeroid/space junk collision protection...hmmmever think they don't want us to ever get into space??

A recent article shows that NASA is about to kill another shuttle crew by their defeatist non-chalance:

Web posted Saturday, January 27, 2001

NASA considering crew escape systems

The Associated Press

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) -- Fifteen years after Challenger disintegrated in the sky, NASA is considering a variety of escape systems -- ejection seats, flyaway capsules -- that could save the crew in another space shuttle accident.

It is the most extensive and expensive look at shuttle crew escape systems ever conducted by NASA. Engineers expect to wrap up the yearlong, $5 million study by spring. But ultimately, the space agency may decide not to add any such features.

NASA puts the odds of a catastrophic accident during launch -- the most dangerous part of any shuttle mission -- at 1-in-438. Shuttle flight No. 102 is coming up in a week and a half.

The leading contender among the safety features under consideration is the ejection seat -- the same system used for the Gemini program and the first four shuttle flights. The Mercury and Apollo spacecraft had rocket-powered towers to fling the capsules away in an emergency. None of these was ever used, but in the Soviet Union, an escape rocket safely pulled two cosmonauts from a burning booster in 1983.

Ejection seats were no longer considered necessary once NASA declared the space shuttle operational, beginning with flight No. 5 in 1982.

"It was the Titanic syndrome: 'Not even God can sink this ship,"' recalls former astronaut Bryan O'Connor, director of engineering at Futron Corp.

NASA's attitude changed with flight No. 25 -- the launch of Challenger, which took place 15 years ago this Sunday, on Jan. 28, 1986. All seven crew members were killed, including teacher Christa McAuliffe. The cause: a gas leak in the right booster rocket.

In the explosion, the crew module separated from the fireball and plunged into the sea. But the crew members had no parachutes and no way to jettison the hatch. They were wearing flimsy blue jumpsuits.

O'Connor headed a panel that looked at crew escape systems after the disaster. When shuttle flights resumed in 1988, he and other astronauts ended up with parachutes; partially pressurized, bright orange suits with emergency oxygen and survival gear; a hatch that blows open; and a pole for sliding out of the spacecraft. [Editor see the excellent film, "Space Cowboys with Clint Eastwood to see these in action]

The Challenger explosion happened 73 seconds after liftoff. The escape systems now under consideration could be used during the first three minutes of flight at an altitude of 150,000 feet or more, as well as during landing and even on the launch pad.

Any one of these systems might have saved the Challenger crew, says Kevin Templin, a project manager in the shuttle engineering office. Challenger's crew module separated intact and went into a 2 1/2-minute free fall from 50,000 feet. SEE TRANSCRIPT OF THE 7 CHALLENGER ASTRONAUT'S LAST WORDS BELOW AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS WEB PAGE. ITS TOO BAD IT WASN'T NASA BUREAUCRATS TUMBLING IN THE SHUTTLE FRAGMENT IN 1986; I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEM SAY SUCH THINGS LIKE "WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME AND MONEY TO INSTALL EJECTION SEATS" WHILE THEY ARE SECONDS FROM DEATH...

Military-style ejection seats probably would be the easiest system to implement. More extreme would be a crew cabin-turned-escape capsule that would be capable of parachuting onto either land or water.

There is also the extraction method, in which miniature rockets would pull astronauts from their seats. Although the lightest option, it could accommodate only five astronauts rather than the desired seven. The capsule could fit in everyone but would add 8,400 pounds to the shuttle and cut into payload weight. Ejection seats could accommodate six astronauts but would take up precious cabin space. [Editor, here come the defeatist, status quo, bullshit, loser mentalities]

"Yes, I would feel better if I had some sort of escape system, but to do so at this stage in the design would make it worse, it would make life so much worse," says Kenneth Cockrell, commander of the next shuttle flight. "The concepts that I've seen just take the crew compartment down to nothing." [Editor: TOO FUCKING BAD, IT BEATS DYING YOU IDIOT]

Each method requires explosives for blasting out of the shuttle, which introduces the danger of something backfiring.

Then there is the cost. Elric McHenry, manager of space shuttle program development, estimates an ejection or extraction system would cost hundreds of millions of dollars. A crew module capable of separating from the shuttle could cost $1 billion or more.

[Editor: another Challenger disaster and you won't have a manned space program, you lazy bureacrat]

The conclusion may well be that none of these systems is cheap enough, light enough, practical enough and easy enough to implement.

[Editor: no that's the lowest common denominator, weak, loser thinking of a media person who does do accomplish tangible things (shit) in real life]

A major factor is the international space station. If NASA hopes to finish building it in five years, then space shuttles cannot be grounded for major overhauls.

[Editor: an explosion and loss of shuttle and crew will be even worse]

Another factor is the longevity of NASA's four space shuttles. It wouldn't make much sense, McHenry and others point out, to install expensive escape systems if the shuttles are not going to be around for long once the space station is built.

[Editor: whatever BS excuse the bureaucrat can conjure up to not solve a problem is preferrable to meaningful, solving-the-problem actions]

Besides, NASA concedes even the most elaborate escape system cannot guarantee crew survival.

[Editor: FUCK NASA. With this loser's mentality why get out of bed every morning? You cannot guarantee you will not die someway. When you can do something to protect LIFE you do it, you do not make bullshit excuses, YOU DO IT]

In the end, the findings may be left for the designers of follow-on spaceships.

[Editor: there will not be any other follow-on spaceships if NASA murders another crew]

Retired NASA engineer Don Nelson says that would be unconscionable.

[Editor: notice he is retired and not involved in the bureaucracy anymore]

"They're taking a very big gamble -- when they don't need to," says Nelson, who has a book coming out titled "NASA ... You Have a Problem."

He proposes replacing shuttle pilots and flight displays with an automated launch and landing system, thereby saving enough weight to put a pop-out crew module in the payload bay.

Otherwise, he says, "you're going to have to live with this vehicle and lose another crew someday. And we will. The warning signs are all there."

MIG pilot ejected to safety at the Paris airshow under 200 feet from a flaming wreckage!

The lazy, uninformed American mind can accept an ejection seat from a fighter at 0-600 mph at zero altitude but cannot seem to accept a parachute at 120 mph from thousands of feet on a light plane...Is it ignorance, non-chalance or nihilistic fatalism, or all three?

2. November 22, 1996

The eleven-man crew of King 56 is en route to their destination in the Pacific north west. One by one, their engines fail. Their HC-130 Hercules tanker plane becomes a glider, no engines, no power, no controls. Slowly, the plane descends. It will take 16 minutes before the plane crashes into the Pacific Ocean. The crew frantically tries to regain control. Finally, giving up hope--they decide to prepare to crash land in the water, making the fatal mistake of "going down" with the plane instead of parachuting out and floating safely to the water and insuring they are away from the crash/wreckage. Ten of the Eleven crew members die trapped inside the flooding aircraft.

3. July 19, 1989

DC-10-10, Flight # 232, Sioux City, Iowa experiences a failure of the number two tail mounted engine during the flight which knocked out the flight controls. The crew had severe difficulties controlling the plane using the engine thrust to steer it. They crash land--One hundred and eleven dead.

4. September 11, 1991

Twin-engine commuter flight, Continental Express plane, Eagle Lake, Texas. Forty-seven screw fasteners are removed during inspection, the inspection crew forgets to re-install these screw fasteners. The plane takes off and breaks up in the air. All fourteen members die.

5. August 21, 1995

Flight 529, Carrollton, GA, a fracture and separation of a propeller blade causes the plane to plummet from 18,000 feet. Eight people die

6. October 14, 1994

American Eagle, flight #3379, Greensboro, North Carolina, loses power in one engine, drops 1400 feet to a fiery crash. Fifteen people die.

Is it possible that some of these crew/passengers could have survived?

The answer is YES.

If only they had parachutes and used them. Why are military and civilians not being allowed/or not using parachutes to escape these plummeting death traps?

The reasons I come up with are frightening: ignorance, denial, non-chalance, arrogance, statistics as excuses, cowardliness, fatalism.

We need to accept the fact that some planes will crash. Sometimes, unfortunately, there are no warnings, no time to prepare, my colleagues and I are well aware of this fact. If giving the choice of possibly living or possibly dying -- I would rather go out trying. But as it exists today, we the American people (military and civilians) do not have this choice. We have very little chance of surviving if the plane we are on malfunctions. We are trapped in a huge structure hurtling to the ground. Someone else NOT on the airplane has made the choice for us.

Why not a parachute under the seat cushion of every passenger/crew member? The flight attendants can help passengers with their parachutes. As soon as an in-flight emergency is detected that would make a crash landing inevitable, passengers would be donning parachutes. Below 10,00 feet (so oxygen is not needed) the aircraft depressurizes and the doors would be opened. Planes that are filled with smoke from onboard fires cannot be flown by their crews since everyone suffocates as soon as their emergency oxygen runs out, and inevitably crash. This is because doors on civilian airliners in flight cannot be opened to vent out the smoke like military aircraft can. This should be changed so they can be opened without the crash landing slide/rafts deploying. Then, before the plane crashes, the passengers can start exiting the plane. As soon as you exit the plane, you pull the cord to deploy your parachute....that=s all there is to it.

These parachutes can be made one-size-fits-all on each sitting position on the plane for the disabled, parent traveling with a young child, and for the larger-size passenger. Each parachute would have a built-in flotation device and a quick-pull release to detach the parachute when the passenger safely lands.

Butler Parachutes for emergency use, note their compact size/weight!

Americans need to demand this life-saving precaution. Shouldn=t we expect to be given every opportunity to survive? Stand-up American--fight for our life, your friends life, your neighbors life, your fellow Americans' life. Lets not wait until the next disaster.....as sure enough their will be one, before we speak out. Lets prevent more unnecessary, needless, senseless, BUT preventable deaths.

Contact the Federal Aviation Administration (F.A.A.) and demand that you and others be given this chance to survive.

Sincerely,

Carol Murphy

The Challenger Transcript

A secret NASA tape reveals that the crew of the shuttle Challenger not only survived the explosion that ripped the vessel apart; they screamed, cried, cursed and prayed for three hellish minutes before they slammed into the Atlantic and perished on January 28, 1986.

The tape is said to begin with a startled crewman screaming,"What happened? What happened? Oh God - No!" Screams and curses are heard- several crewmen begin to weep- and then others bid their families farewell.

Two minutes forty-five seconds later the tape ends. That's when the shuttles crew compartment, which remained intact after the vessel exploded over the Atlantic, hit the ocean at over 2,000 miles per hour, instantly killing the crew.

" Cover up? Of course there was a coverup, " declared Robert Hotz, a member of the Presidential commission that investigated the disaster. " NASA can't face the fact that they put these astronauts in a situation where they didn't have adequate equipment to survive. NASA doesn't give a damn about anything but covering it's ass, " he said.

The official account released by NASA ends with shuttle pilot Michael Smith saying, " Uh-oh!" Some NASA employees have evidently heard more-much more. And they provided the rest of the account based on what they've discussed within NASA in the last five years. The astronauts had time and realized something was happening after the shuttle broke up.

" All shuttle astronauts carry personal recorders and the tape in question apparently came from Christa's (McAuliffe), which was recovered after the shuttle disaster, " said Hotz. Jarvis was sitting beside her, and when he figured out what was happening he said, " Give me your hand. "

" NASA insists there's nothing like that on tape but they're talking about the mission tape, not Christa's. So they're not lying, but they're not telling the truth, either. "

A journalist with close ties to NASA was even more emphatic, " There are persistent rumors, dating back to the disaster, that this tape is absolutely bone-chilling. "

The "official" version: (can you spell bullshit?)

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

Washington, D C. 20546

NASA has completed its analysis of the Challenger operational recorder voice tape. The enclosed transcript reveals the comments of Commander Francis R.Scobee, Pilot Michael J. Smith, Mission Specialist 1 Ellison S. Onizuka, and Mission Specialist 2 Judith A. Resnik for the period of T-2:05 prior to launch through approximately T+73 seconds when loss of all data occurred. The operational recorder is automatically activated at T-2:05 and normally runs throughout the mission. During the period of the prelaunch and the launch phase covered by the voice tape, Mission Specialist 3 Ronald E. McNair, Payload Specialist 1 S. Christa McAuliffe, and Payload Specialist 2 Gregory B. Jarvis were seated in the middeck and could monitor all voice activity but did not make any voice reports or comments.

TRANSCRIPT OF THE CHALLENGER CREW COMMENTS FROM THE OPERATIONAL RECORDER

CDR.....Scobee
PLT.....Smith
MS 1....Onizuka
MS 2....Resnik

The references to "NASA" indicate explanatory references NASA provided to the Presidential Commission.)

Time Crew Crew

(Min:Sec).........Position Comment


T-2:05............MS 2 Would you give that back to me?
T-2:03............MS 2 Security blanket.
T-2:02............MS 2 Hmm.
T-1:58............CDR Two minutes downstairs; you gotta watch running down there? (NASA: Two minutes till launch.)
T-1:47............PLT OK there goes the lox arm.
(NASA: Liquid oxygen supply arm to ET.) T-1:46............CDR Goes the beanie cap. (NASA: Liquid oxygen vent cap.)
T-1:44............MS 1 Doesn't it go the other way?
T-1:42 Laughter.
T-1:39............MS 1 Now I see it; I see it.
T-1:39............PLT God I hope not Ellison.
T-1:38............MS 1 I couldn't see it moving; it was behind the center screen. (NASA: Obstructed view of liquid oxygen supply arm.)
T-1:33............MS 2 Got your harnesses locked? (NASA: Seat restraints.)
T-1:29............PLT What for?
T-1:28............CDR I won't lock mine; I might have to reach something.
T-1:24............PLT Ooh kaaaay.
T-1:04............MS 1 Dick's thinking of somebody there.
T-1:03............CDR Unhuh.
T-59...............CDR One minute downstairs. (NASA: One minute till launch.)
T-52...............MS 2 Cabin Pressure is probably going to give us an alarm. (NASA: Caution and warning alarm. Routine occurrence during prelaunch).
T-50...............CDR OK.
T-47...............CDR OK there.
T-43...............PLT Alarm looks good. (NASA: Cabin pressure is acceptable.)
T-42...............CDR OK.
T-40...............PLT Ullage pressures are up. (NASA: External tank ullage pressure.) T-34...............PLT Right engine helium tank is just a little bit low. (NASA: SSME supply helium pressure.)
T-32...............CDR It was yesterday, too.
T-31...............PLT OK.
T-30..............CDR Thirty seconds down there. (NASA: 30 seconds till launch.)
T-25..............PLT Remember the red button when you make a roll call. (NASA: Precautionary reminder for communications configuration.)
T-23.............CDR I won't do that; thanks a lot.
T-15.............CDR Fifteen. (NASA: 15 seconds till launch.)
T-6...............CDR There they go guys. (NASA: SSME Ignition.)
MS 2 All right.
CDR Three at a hundred. (NASA: SSME thrust level at 100% for all 3 engines.)
T+O.............MS 2 Aaall riiight.
T+1..............PLT Here we go. (NASA: Vehicle motion.)
T+7..............CDR Houston, Challenger roll program. (NASA: Initiation of vehicle roll program.)
T+11............PLT Go you Mother.
T+14............MS LVLH. (NASA: Reminder for cockpit switch configuration change. Local vertical/local horizontal).
T+15............MS 2 (Expletive) hot.
T+16............CDR Ooohh-kaaay.
T+19............PLT Looks like we've got a lotta wind here today.
T+20............CDR Yeah.
T+22............CDR It's a little hard to see out my window here.
T+28............PLT There's ten thousand feet and Mach point five. (NASA: Altitude and velocity report.)
T+30 Garble.
T+35............CDR Point nine. (NASA: Velocity report, 0.9 Mach).
T+40............PLT There's Mach one. (NASA: Velocity report, 1.0 Mach).
T+41............CDR Going through nineteen thousand. (NASA: Altitude report, 19,000 ft.)
T+43............CDR OK we're throttling down. (NASA: Normal SSME thrust reduction during maximum dynamic pressure region.
T+57............CDR Throttling up. (NASA: Throttle up to 104% after maximum dynamic pressure.
T+58............PLT Throttle up.
T+59............CDR Roger.
T+60............PLT Feel that mother go.
T+60 Woooohoooo.
T+1:02.........PLT Thirty-five thousand going through one point five (NASA: Altitude and velocity report, 35,000 ft., 1.5 Mach).
T+1:05.........CDR Reading four eighty six on mine. (NASA: Routine airspeed indicator check.)
T+1:07.........PLT Yep, that's what I've got, too.
T+1:10.........CDR Roger, go at throttle up. (NASA: SSME at 104 percent.
T+1:13.........PLT Uhoh.
T+1:13 LOSS OF ALL DATA.

The following begins two seconds after NASA's official version ends, with pilot Michael Smith saying, " Uh-oh! " Times from the moment of takeoff are shown in minutes and seconds and are approximate. The sex of the speaker is indicated by M or F.

T+1:15 (M) What happened? What happened? Oh God, no - no!
T+1:17 (F) Oh dear God.
T+1:18 (M) Turn on your air pack! Turn on your air...
T+1:20 (M) Can't breathe... choking...
T+1:21 (M) Lift up your visor!
T+1:22 (M/F) (Screams.) It's hot. (Sobs.) I can't. Don't tell me... God! Do it...now...
T+1:24 (M) I told them... I told them... Dammit! Resnik don't...
T+1:27 (M) Take it easy! Move (unintelligible)...
T+1:28 (F) Don't let me die like this. Not now. Not here...
T+1:31 (M) Your arm... no... I (extended garble, static)
T+1:36 (F) I'm... passing... out...
T+1:37 (M) We're not dead yet.
T+1:40 (M) If you ever wanted (unintelligible) me a miracle... (unintelligible)... (screams)
T+1:41 (M) She's... she's... (garble) ... damn!
T+1:50 (M) Can't breathe...
T+1:51 (M/F) (screams) Jesus Christ! No!
T+1:54 (M) She's out.
T+1:55 (M) Lucky... (unintelligible).
T+1:56 (M) God. The water... we're dead! (screams)
T+2:00 (F) Goodbye (sobs)... I love you, I love you...
T+2:03 (M) Loosen up... loosen up...
T+2:07 (M) It'll just be like a ditch landing...
T+2:09 (M) That's right, think positive.
T+2:11 (M) Ditch procedure...
T+2:14 (M) No way!
T+2:17 (M) Give me your hand...
T+2:19 (M) You awake in there? I... I...
T+2:29 (M) Our Father... (unintelligible)...
T+2:42 (M) ...hallowed be Thy name... (unintelligible).
T+2:57 (M) You...over there?
T+2:58 (M) The Lord is my shepherd, I shall...not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures... though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil... I will dwell in the house...
T+3:15 to end. None. Static, silence.